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3/12/2010 7:15:46 PM
topic: Still Too Early

surfponto
surfponto
Posts 46
Not sure I should post this but once when i was solo in the East Fork of Carrizo Gorge I surprised a group of 10-12 migrants.

They scattered when they heard my diesel coming up the canyon but I said in my bad Spanish. "Its' OK", or something like that. Suddenly they all stopped and started walking towards my LandCruiser.

First thought was OK I am by myself and there are 10-12 dudes walking towards me. When they got closer I realized how bad they looked, this was late April and It was over 90', so I gave them what was left of my food and water.

hikerdmb wrote:
I wasn't really that close, maybe 10 -15 yards. I did use a little HP Image Zone program to zoom in a bit before I posted it. It was strange seeing one guy just give up and the other take off running. Then the Border Patrol guy got back in his truck turned on his lights and took off after the runner.

edited by surfponto on 3/12/2010
3/12/2010 6:51:46 PM
topic: Anza Borrego Foundation "Hike of the Month"

surfponto
surfponto
Posts 46
Thanks David,
Appreciate the advice. I will GPS the cabin. I am excited to go since like I said earlier I usually don't stray north of Indian Valley. Time to expand my horizons.
Will do a quick writeup when return with pics

When is your next trip out?

Still thinking of a midweek overnight trip next week also.



hikerdmb wrote:
Bob,
Harper Flat is a great valley. I have backpacked in there once every year or two for the last 10+ years. You will like it I am sure. I am interested to see how the flowers are in there this year since I have not been in there since last spring. In fact the weekend we camped in there last year we ran into a group of 12 or so people. That was only the second time we saw anyone else in the valley. The other time we saw one lone day hiker. I wonder if your group is the same group as last year. There is lots of evidence of past habitation in the valley. We have found morteros on the south and north edge of the valley. I have read of sleeping cirlces somewhere in the Flat or Harper Canyon. We have searched more than once for them with no luck, have not looked on the western side of the valley. Maybe you will get led to them by Mark.

Also on your way out you might want to look in some of the side washes that join Pinyon Wash from the east. Last spring there were LOTS of flowers in those washes. The most I found were in a wash that joined Pinyon Wash at a slight angle from the southeast. It was somewhere south of where Nolina Wash joins Pinyon Wash.

Also I just read the link you provided and it said something about a cabin. I would like to know where that is if you will share upon your return. Have not seen that one before. In fact I didn't even know about it.

I hope you have a great hike and find the sleeping circles. Looks like more wind on Saturday.

David
I fixed a couple of directions when I got home and looked at a map.
edited by hikerdmb on 3/12/2010
3/12/2010 12:36:20 PM
topic: Anza Borrego Foundation "Hike of the Month"

hikerdmb
hikerdmb
Posts 25
Bob,
Harper Flat is a great valley. I have backpacked in there once every year or two for the last 10+ years. You will like it I am sure. I am interested to see how the flowers are in there this year since I have not been in there since last spring. In fact the weekend we camped in there last year we ran into a group of 12 or so people. That was only the second time we saw anyone else in the valley. The other time we saw one lone day hiker. I wonder if your group is the same group as last year. There is lots of evidence of past habitation in the valley. We have found morteros on the south and north edge of the valley. I have read of sleeping cirlces somewhere in the Flat or Harper Canyon. We have searched more than once for them with no luck, have not looked on the western side of the valley. Maybe you will get led to them by Mark.

Also on your way out you might want to look in some of the side washes that join Pinyon Wash from the east. Last spring there were LOTS of flowers in those washes. The most I found were in a wash that joined Pinyon Wash at a slight angle from the southeast. It was somewhere south of where Nolina Wash joins Pinyon Wash.

Also I just read the link you provided and it said something about a cabin. I would like to know where that is if you will share upon your return. Have not seen that one before. In fact I didn't even know about it.

I hope you have a great hike and find the sleeping circles. Looks like more wind on Saturday.

David
I fixed a couple of directions when I got home and looked at a map.
edited by hikerdmb on 3/12/2010
3/12/2010 9:08:54 AM
topic: Anza Borrego Foundation "Hike of the Month"

surfponto
surfponto
Posts 46
Mary and I signed up to do the Anza Borrego Foundations "Hike of the Month" to Harper Flat. Usually we shy away from organized tours of any kind but this one is being led by Mark Jorgensen who was the superintendent of the ABDSP for many years.
I think it will be interesting to hike with someone who know the park so well.
If you are interested the link is here but you need to preregister.
Hike Of The Month Harper Cabin


I will post back on Sunday.
edited by surfponto on 3/12/2010
3/10/2010 4:48:00 PM
topic: Still Too Early

hikerdmb
hikerdmb
Posts 25
I wasn't really that close, maybe 10 -15 yards. I did use a little HP Image Zone program to zoom in a bit before I posted it. It was strange seeing one guy just give up and the other take off running. Then the Border Patrol guy got back in his truck turned on his lights and took off after the runner.
3/10/2010 12:26:09 PM
topic: Still Too Early

surfponto
surfponto
Posts 46
I agree, that picture is amazing!
You must have been really close.

I want to find that water tank. That looks awesome.
Bob

quidditian wrote:
Holy crap, those are magnificent. The rock tank is unbelievable! I guess even if there's no movement with the water, it's drinkable (should it come to it) and swimable/bathable since it's replenished in the sense that it evaporates and is eventually refreshed.

This Ivan Alexander, whose links I posted elsewhere regarding the pictographs being maps to shelter and water (rather than somewhat random shamanistic/artistic scribblings) has captured my imagination about certain pragmatic things in the desert. I mean, they DID require drinking water (I forget this with my handy dandy bottled water), and they DID bathe when and where possible.

I feel like I'm falling in love with the mysteries of native culture all over again...it sort of got shoved aside years ago when eeking out a life got in the way of being enraptured by the past. Dormant cells jiggling and wiggling into wondrous curiosity again. Man, the power of the desert.

I love the migrant guy. That's totally Nat Geo worthy.
3/9/2010 9:14:53 PM
topic: First fumbling pass at experiencing Anza Borrego

quidditian
quidditian
Posts 14
Awww, thank you Cactusflower -- your words are appreciated, kind, and don't fall on deaf ears. I too hope to overcome all the fear...of what? I don't know. I am truly happy in my cocoon. I'm surrounded in/by a box of paint, and I adore it; I also know I need to escape the studio to live life in order to come back and paint about it.

I think it's when I artistically dry up (from lack of external stimuli) that I'm finally compelled to make the leap outside my safety zone. Hence the act of "god" to get me outside of the house.

Do you have a favorite or recommended spot in Anza? I am paying attention, because there's nothing that will keep me from going back (er, save the death heat)...
3/9/2010 8:38:33 PM
topic: First fumbling pass at experiencing Anza Borrego

CactusFlower
CactusFlower
Posts 1
Really liked your post! You are a good writer, very entertaining. Enjoyed your sense of adventure and humor, never good to take life too seriously in my opinion. Your story about getting stuck in the sand was very relateable, been there several times. I can't say that we were so self reliant, just fortunate to have others lend a hand and feel good about the prowess of their autos. I hope you find other tempations in life that draw you out of your home and comfort zone. Life doesn't need to be comfortable to be enjoyable, often times the opposite is true. (-:



quidditian wrote:
By way of update, I've put together this pictorial web album to send to friends. It's 92 pics, so don't feel like you have to plow through all of it -- though it should be noted I pared down the pics from the 250 I came home with :}...

http://picasaweb.google.com/Quidditian/AnzaBorrego33103610#

What should be known about me is that I adore being at home, puttering around my house (apartment) and patio/studio. I don't often, as I say, "Go Places and Do Things." I loathe driving, and am terrified of anything other than the trek up and down the 805 to Del Mar that I made for nine years (before being laid off in August). I DO love nature, but getting me out of the house requires an act of god. The fact that I'm completely content at home, and am further high-maintenance (in that girly-buff-and-fluff sort of way) and hate driving effectively squashes any sort of adventurous spirit.

I'm trying to force myself to do all of the things I've always wanted to do now that I have the time, and some quality time in the desert was/is top priority on that list. I would live in a desert, were it not for the heat -- everything else we typically associate with the desert speaks to me on a very primordial level.

The problem with desert adventuring, I've learned from this trip to Anza, is that I love to be alone...act on my own whims, and not be disturbed by human voices; I also like to linger over simple things that bore other people. I think the compromise with myself going forward will be that if I'm to go alone, I need to stick to fairly populated areas.

Sooooooooo, what's not mentioned in my little pictorial foray is what happened on Thursday, as I attempted to get to Font's Point.

I'd gone to the Visitor's Center first, and talked to a ranger to try to map out my path. A friend had recommended Font's Point, and when I told this to the ranger, he asked what kind of car I drove, then said I "should" be okay.

Well, not so much. I drive a '99 Mazda 626. As evidence of my lack of travel, it only has 96k miles on it, and I fully intend to drive it into the ground. I'm like the proverbial old lady who only drove her car to church downhill both ways, save the fact I don't "do" church.

I was nervous as I got a bit into the dirt road leading to Font's Point...very soft and shifty sand, but it was do-able at snail's pace. I was, I imagine, 3/4 of a mile in when I saw a stalled little car...maybe a Focus or something similar. I checked to see whether anyone was in it, thinking someone might be in trouble, but it was empty. I only made it a few yards further when I became completely, utterly, and hopelessly stuck in the sand.

Well then. "Now what?" I thought as I surveyed the desolate landscape. For about 15-20 minutes, I alternated between trying to go forward and reverse, giving little rests each of the 2-3 times the engine stalled out. There was a slow and creeping panic that I wasn't allowing myself to succumb to. Here I will note that part of my reclusiveness combined with technophobia is that I don't own a "real" cell phone. I have an ancient thing that can be used to dial 911 if required -- this was a hand-me-down phone given to me years ago by a friend who was annoyed that I didn't have some sort of connection to the outside world in case of an emergency when in my car.

After literally spinning my wheels, I finally opened my door to assess the situation, and found the sand was up to the entry level of the car (I've since measured this as nine inches). I closed the door and focused on not panicking. As I looked up, I saw a coyote scurry across the "road." Somewhere in my ever- darkly amused brain, I thought "just toss in some vultures circling overhead, and we've got ourselves a cartoon." Visually, the scene was strikingly beautiful, with a bit of an almost unreal/surreal gorgeousness to it that, I believe, kept the panic at bay.

By some miracle, my next attempt to reverse gave me enough traction to fly out of my pit, squiggling and wiggling all over the place as I flew toward solid(ish) ground. I imagine the reality of the situation would have eventually been most unamusing had it gone on much longer. In the entire time there, I never once saw another car pass. That night, safely back at the hotel, I discovered that I had left my 911 phone in my purse at the hotel room, and not packed it in my hiking bag that morning -- had I discovered that while I was stuck, I surely would have completely freaked out, as calling 911 was the only back-up plan I had in mind (would I even get a signal there? Something else to consider...).

At about the same place I flew out of the sand, there were other shallow winding tracks where it appeared someone had encountered the same thing I did, and also managed to get out (unlike the unfortunate Focus owner). I've since looked at a couple of you tube videos of that road, and they were relatively navigable -- NOTHING like what I encountered.

I didn't put it together until yesterday, but this Tierra Del Sol 4x4 thing was the 5th - 7th, and I wonder if some attendees had come out a day early and ripped up the road with their ATVs or whatever other sorts of vehicles they use.

That was my potential disaster for Thursday. In retrospect, I should have reported the whole thing to the rangers, if for no other reason than to prevent the same thing from happening to someone else, and also in order to do some sort of a safety check on the Focus owner. Now I feel like a cad. I guess I just thought it was "normal" until I saw the you tube videos once I was back home yesterday. I had silently cursed the ranger for not giving more warning, but perhaps that's because the road condition was truly anomalous, and he simply didn't know. Maybe I should still make a call so they can be vigilant in the future...or maybe it's all too much to keep up with even when the 4x4 peeps aren't descending on the place...or maybe I just shouldn't be stupid enough to go tooling around in the desert alone with no cell phone. Sigh.

Next lesson learned: Broken Toe Friday. This one is less wordy, I promise. :] This incident is purely devoid of external influences, and entirely my fault.

Now, by today I had my 911 phone, but the point was moot, since there was no signal in the area. I'd spent a good amount of time bouncing around the mortero area, so as I made the hike to the pictographs, my out-of shape legs were already feeling a little noodly...the uphill grade is very slight for a normal person, but I was definitely feeling it.

In short, I climbed up over a couple of boulders, and on the other side my feet met a relatively flat slab of granite with a fine layer of sand on it. No, I was not wearing hike-appropriate shoes, and subsequently found myself with head resting in a little cholla branch, breathlessly (literally) gazing up at the lovely blue sky.

As I lay there, shadows increasing in the 4:00 pm sun, with leg twisted up under me, I was cognizant that this was not good. My toes were in screaming pain for a brief period, and my only thought was "oh PLEASE let me be able to walk." Thankfully, I was...albeit trudgingly. I knew I had to be close to the pictographs, and as long as I could move, I intended to drag the rest of the way up there.

On the way back down, I sort of wanted to put a little cairn at the falling spot, but I A) felt too much like an outsider to the hiking world to be erecting cairns and, B) was desperate to get out of there before dark (you guessed it -- I didn't have my flashlight with me...it was luxuriating on a bed back at the hotel).

Later that night I thought "what if I hadn't been able to walk?" Again, I'm glad the full repercussions of that didn't occur to me while I was on the ground, else the increasingly-familiar sense of panic would have set in. I mean, that's not territory where your friendly EMT puts you on a stretcher and rolls you out... No, even when someone finally finds you there (hopefully by the next day), there's got to be an airlift involved. I'm wondering whether Kaiser covers that. I mean, co-pay on an ambulance is $50 -- what's the co-pay on a helicopter? :]

The fact that I was there during the week vs. weekend was a double-edged sword. I loved the lack of people, but if I'd truly gotten into a bind I sure as heck would have been hoping someone wandered by...

All of this aside, it was the most precious four days in recent memory. I'm a hard-core rationalist, but I still like to think "the gods" let me out of there basically unscathed because my foibles were a good source of entertainment. They prolly get bored looking at all of you people who know what you're doing. ;]
edited by quidditian on 3/8/2010
edited by quidditian on 3/8/2010
3/9/2010 8:34:53 PM
topic: Quartz mystery...

surfponto
surfponto
Posts 46
Great links Cayenne,
Thanks. His website is very interesting.
Thanks for answering that.

Bob


quidditian wrote:
Hmmmmm...found this in this link: http://www.kumeyaay.info/indian_bows_arrows.html

"This fully-researched book will include all facets of Native California pigments and paint, including physical, social, spiritual — in great detail — and will reveal about how the Indians turned yellow pigment red, and how the aborigines made blue from white gypsum and black charcoal, and it will give many other recipes for Indian paint.
The book will also discuss the origin of CAVE ART in California and will include the latest atomic accelerator testing of the ancient pigments used by California Indians for eons."

Also while tooling around looking for pigment-making info, ran across this guy, who has some fascinating theories that the pictographs (at least some of them) may not have had their origins as art, but as maps to shelter and water. He has to make some pretty large leaps of faith and imagination, but it's an interesting theory, and he doesn't seem to be a whack-job. :]

http://www.humancafe.com/discus/messages/6/41.html#POST3981

And he and his friend think that the light scalloping on this rock (what I thought were shallow morteros) were a calendar. I wish I'd known all of this before I went out there!

http://picasaweb.google.com/Quidditian/AnzaBorrego33103610#5446087321899249570

Groovy stuff.
3/9/2010 8:13:01 PM
topic: Still Too Early

quidditian
quidditian
Posts 14
Holy crap, those are magnificent. The rock tank is unbelievable! I guess even if there's no movement with the water, it's drinkable (should it come to it) and swimable/bathable since it's replenished in the sense that it evaporates and is eventually refreshed.

This Ivan Alexander, whose links I posted elsewhere regarding the pictographs being maps to shelter and water (rather than somewhat random shamanistic/artistic scribblings) has captured my imagination about certain pragmatic things in the desert. I mean, they DID require drinking water (I forget this with my handy dandy bottled water), and they DID bathe when and where possible.

I feel like I'm falling in love with the mysteries of native culture all over again...it sort of got shoved aside years ago when eeking out a life got in the way of being enraptured by the past. Dormant cells jiggling and wiggling into wondrous curiosity again. Man, the power of the desert.

I love the migrant guy. That's totally Nat Geo worthy.
3/9/2010 7:47:37 PM
topic: Still Too Early

hikerdmb
hikerdmb
Posts 25
Since I found out how to do this (Thanks Bob) I thought I would share a few more pics from the trip to Piedras Grande and beyond.



This is a huge cholla garden between Piedras Grande and the water tank.



and finally here is the rock tank that is near the cave in Indian Hill. This picture is from 1995. I have not been there this year to check it out, yet.



And finally here is the guy running from the Border Patrol where the Indian Valley road meets S-2

3/9/2010 11:27:51 AM
topic: First fumbling pass at experiencing Anza Borrego

quidditian
quidditian
Posts 14
Madman. :] Reminds me of a shirt a friend from New Mexico had -- two skeletons sitting and chatting, martinis in hand, saying "but it's a dry heat."
3/9/2010 7:57:39 AM
topic: First fumbling pass at experiencing Anza Borrego

surfponto
surfponto
Posts 46
For a real Desert experience try heading out there in the summer.
Last summer I went out for the day and I think they said it was pushing 110' F
Couldn't convince my wife to come out on that trip.

I saw one person the whole time. Of course I didn't stray more that one mile from my Landcruiser.
Not sure I would do that again.

It felt like I was only person on the planet.....

quidditian wrote:
Thanks, guys --

Well, it may be time for me to join this century and at least get some sort of real cell phone that I could use to text people before I leave for an excursion and check in upon return. I see the temps are already climbing into the upper 70s this weekend, which means by the time I can walk 100% again, it'll be too hot for me (told you I'm whiny). Luckily, the toe isn't excruciating...I should be good to go within 2-3 weeks, I hope.

I'll have to spend some time sniffing out other places in the park with non-camping lodging and potentially cooler temps (if either of these things exist as we head into April/May).

Just read reviews on Between A Rock and a Hard Place. Ugh. Double Ugh.

*slaps self for stupidity*
3/8/2010 8:27:43 PM
topic: Quartz mystery...

quidditian
quidditian
Posts 14
Hmmmmm...found this in this link: http://www.kumeyaay.info/indian_bows_arrows.html

"This fully-researched book will include all facets of Native California pigments and paint, including physical, social, spiritual — in great detail — and will reveal about how the Indians turned yellow pigment red, and how the aborigines made blue from white gypsum and black charcoal, and it will give many other recipes for Indian paint.
The book will also discuss the origin of CAVE ART in California and will include the latest atomic accelerator testing of the ancient pigments used by California Indians for eons."

Also while tooling around looking for pigment-making info, ran across this guy, who has some fascinating theories that the pictographs (at least some of them) may not have had their origins as art, but as maps to shelter and water. He has to make some pretty large leaps of faith and imagination, but it's an interesting theory, and he doesn't seem to be a whack-job. :]

http://www.humancafe.com/discus/messages/6/41.html#POST3981

And he and his friend think that the light scalloping on this rock (what I thought were shallow morteros) were a calendar. I wish I'd known all of this before I went out there!

http://picasaweb.google.com/Quidditian/AnzaBorrego33103610#5446087321899249570

Groovy stuff.
3/8/2010 8:06:24 PM
topic: First fumbling pass at experiencing Anza Borrego

quidditian
quidditian
Posts 14
Thanks, guys --

Well, it may be time for me to join this century and at least get some sort of real cell phone that I could use to text people before I leave for an excursion and check in upon return. I see the temps are already climbing into the upper 70s this weekend, which means by the time I can walk 100% again, it'll be too hot for me (told you I'm whiny). Luckily, the toe isn't excruciating...I should be good to go within 2-3 weeks, I hope.

I'll have to spend some time sniffing out other places in the park with non-camping lodging and potentially cooler temps (if either of these things exist as we head into April/May).

Just read reviews on Between A Rock and a Hard Place. Ugh. Double Ugh.

*slaps self for stupidity*
3/8/2010 6:22:56 PM
topic: Still Too Early

surfponto
surfponto
Posts 46
Hi David,
No I haven't seen that. If you are standing at the mouth of the cave is it to the South on that far ridge or is it to the West?
I would like to check that out sometime.

There is something similar by the Mortero Palms.

I think I am going to do a solo overnight trip during the week next week.
I want to hike up Rockhouse Canyon (BLM) past the linehouse that is up there.

Regards,
Bob
hikerdmb wrote:
Bob,
Yes I did notice there was no water drops anymore. I wonder who took them.

I was really hoping to get back to the cave at Indian Hill and check out the tank across from it. But it was raining so hard on Sunday morning there is no way I was going to do it then. Perhaps another day. We still want to do a couple of backpacking trips this year before it gets too hot and with my daughters coming home for a week and then a planned trip to Yosemite for backcountry skiing I don't know if I can fit it all in. But I am sure going to give it a try.

Did you make it that far with your friends? Did you see the tank? Have you seen it before? The first time I saw it it was almost full but each time after it has been empty or nearly empty. It is about the size of a bathtub. I have a picture of it somewhere but can't seem to find it. When standing in the mouth of the cave it is across a little wash up on the side of the hill about the same elevation as the cave.

David

edited by surfponto on 3/8/2010
3/8/2010 5:25:46 PM
topic: Still Too Early

hikerdmb
hikerdmb
Posts 25
Bob,
Yes I did notice there was no water drops anymore. I wonder who took them.

I was really hoping to get back to the cave at Indian Hill and check out the tank across from it. But it was raining so hard on Sunday morning there is no way I was going to do it then. Perhaps another day. We still want to do a couple of backpacking trips this year before it gets too hot and with my daughters coming home for a week and then a planned trip to Yosemite for backcountry skiing I don't know if I can fit it all in. But I am sure going to give it a try.

Did you make it that far with your friends? Did you see the tank? Have you seen it before? The first time I saw it it was almost full but each time after it has been empty or nearly empty. It is about the size of a bathtub. I have a picture of it somewhere but can't seem to find it. When standing in the mouth of the cave it is across a little wash up on the side of the hill about the same elevation as the cave.

David
3/8/2010 12:58:46 PM
topic: First fumbling pass at experiencing Anza Borrego

hikerdmb
hikerdmb
Posts 25
Nicely done! Good story and good pictures too. You know the old saying whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger. And look at the lessons you already learned in four days.

I agree about the speed in two wheel drive. Many years ago on my first trip all the way through Coyote Canyon, one of the trucks with us was a two wheel drive. He made it all the way to Anza just by blasting through the tough parts. That is the only time I ever heard of a two wheel drive making it through.

I usually go with one other person but I do go backpacking, fourwheelin', hiking around in ABDSP by myself once or twice a year. Though I do take my dog most of those times. One thing I have learned is to be extra extra carefull when you go solo, you know things like looking where you put your hand before you put it there, not taking risks when climbing or descending, and ALWAYS (and this is the MOST IMPORTANT THING) tell someone who is RELIABLE where you are going and when you will return. That way even if it is a weekday or a slow time of year, someone is going to come looking for you. Read "Between a Rock and a Hard Place" by Aron Ralston to find out what can happen when you don't do this.

Glad you made it out alive on this trip.
David
3/8/2010 9:31:20 AM
topic: Quartz mystery...

surfponto
surfponto
Posts 46
What is even more perplexing is the "Blue Sun" pictograph at Indian Hill.
We can't figure out how the Kumeyaay artists were able to come up with the color blue from what was available?.



quidditian wrote:
Thank you -- you're kind. You may eat your words when you see the novella I just wrote as an update. :] PLEASE don't feel like you have to read it. It's sort of self-serving as a way to document my little experience...

That's a flippin' gorgeous pic...could be an abstract painting, nicely picking up the texture and dimension.

It's perplexing... I went around and around last night about the issue of preservation of these things. My experience at Castle Gardens was...um...sixteen years ago, and the status may be better or worse at this point. It made my heart ache to see this ugly man-made structure around the carvings, but I also fully understood the need for it to be there. My misanthropic tendencies are only fueled when I realize how utterly clueless, if not downright malicious people can be... and the pictographs are even more fragile than petroglyphys, I would assume.

Which brings to mind another point to google: I wonder what sort of pigments they used for the pictographs. Even if only 200 years old, the elements are extreme, and there's no modern paint equivalent I know of that would hold up to the the elements -- especially given the ultimate fragility of the "rock canvas". I'm fascinated by contemporary painters who make their own pigments (I think there are maybe two such people currently alive), but I haven't much looked into the logistics of it...seems like an overwhelming endeavor.

Camping -- don't count on it -- I wish it were easy for me. Alas, having found the creepy little affordable hotel I love, I hope to return often enough that they'll eventually name one of the rooms "The Cayenne Suite." After I die/retire, I hope to haunt the place unimpeded by physicality. Maybe establish a little B&B on Ghost Mountain. :o <---scary ghost
edited by quidditian on 3/8/2010
3/8/2010 9:26:06 AM
topic: Quartz mystery...

surfponto
surfponto
Posts 46
OK David,
You win. My theory about water was just that.. a theory.

Seems you were actually paying attention in your college Geo class unlike me.
Bob

quidditian wrote:
Okay, finally posted the pics of quartz lines for my best friend (and living encyclopedia), and gave him David's theory. He wrote:

Well, that seems plausible. When I saw them, it made be think of "friendship rocks" that have a line running through them, found in Maine. I've no clue how they are formed, so will have consult my trusty, dusty wikipedia.

In the next email, he said:

That was a bust, I'm going with that guy's theory.

Then he sent this link. It seems that your memory from "many moons ago" is perfectly in tact, David. :]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dike_%28geology%29

Thanks much!

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